Seriously???

I just ran into a “scholar” on twitter (it was I passing and I don’t recall his handle) who said “well, they” meaning polytheisms “weren’t contemporary for very long. Christianity took care of that. They were very successful.” Um…as I did in response to twitter, let me explain how Christianity took care of it: by first passing religiously restrictive laws, then eventually (usually sooner rather than later) butchering religious practitioners, desecrating sacred spaces, destroying holy objects, spreading like a pollution over the land via intimidation (backed by military force), violence, bloodshed, the martyrdom of devout polytheists, destroying temples, and cultural and religious genocide. They’re still doing it (India, Brasil, Haiti, various countries in Africa, anywhere they think they can get away with it). You know what though? We’re still here. Polytheism is still here. We’re growing. We never disappeared fully so Christianity was not as successful as it thinks it was. It did not win. So, you, dear scholar, can suck it.

 Seriously, it’s gross to be gloating about the effects on real bodies, real people, real traditions, real places of colonialism, conquest, and genocide.  Toward no other group would this be acceptable.  

About ganglerisgrove

Galina Krasskova has been a Heathen priest since 1995. She holds a Masters in Religious Studies (2009), a Masters in Medieval Studies (2019), has done extensive graduate work in Classics including teaching Latin, Roman History, and Greek and Roman Literature for the better part of a decade, and is currently pursuing a PhD in Theology. She is the managing editor of Walking the Worlds journal and has written over thirty books on Heathenry and Polytheism including "A Modern Guide to Heathenry" and "He is Frenzy: Collected Writings about Odin." In addition to her religious work, she is an accomplished artist who has shown all over the world and she currently runs a prayer card project available at wyrdcuriosities.etsy.com.

Posted on January 21, 2020, in Uncategorized and tagged , . Bookmark the permalink. 5 Comments.

  1. I’m reminded of a scholar, who, when i recently gave a paper on Charlemagne’s butchery of the Saxons, said (and this is a direct quote), while leaning in to look me earnestly in the eyes, ” we have to remember he had good intentions.” yeah well, I’m sure Stalin did too but I don’t think the forty million people he butchered really care and i’m going to go out on a limb and say neither do the Saxons. We gonna give hItler a pass for his intentions, Pol Pot, I don’t know [insert genocidal psychopath here]? Because that is precisely the company in which men like Charlemagne belong. But he gets a pass bc of his “good intentions” (you know, same intentions those in the US and Canada setting up native schools had: to destroy indigenous culture and most importantly, to force christianity down native kids’ throats ). Fuck that.

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  2. The person in question came into the pagan sphere a while back claiming to be a polytheist. From day one all they did was apologize for Islam and Christianity and shit on pagan cultures. They are a massive Hinduphobe. When the doxxing of prominent pagans (I think you and Butler were doxxed) happened they were buddies with the doxxer and they even posted against the victims saying they are assholes for taking legal action against their friend. I have no idea why the pagan community is tolerating this person, but it’s a really bad look.

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    • This is good to know. This is yet one more reason why I advocate polytheists driving such people out of our spaces. I think if they actually are Pagan, they’re anti-theistic bastards and I’m not convinced that such people are even that. I think it’s just as possible that they’re Christian plants. We’ve all seen that happen before. This is also why I think there’s a massive difference between many “Pagans” and Polytheists (the words should be synonymous but way too many impious, anti-theistic fools claim the former). Pagan community tolerates them because it’s filled with those who would spit right in the face of the Gods if given half a chance. They do not care about Gods, traditions, nor even their own communities. They’re polluted as hell.

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  3. For a time, there was a knee-jerk response to pagans talking about Christian persecution because many of them were sloppy about it- like talking about Margaret Murray witchcraft type stuff, or saying Christians “stole” pagan customs that were actually medieval or claiming Christians started “the patriarchy”. Or being told that you’re a bad pagan/polytheist for correcting bad historical claims. I’ve been told by other pagans that I must “love St. Patrick” for trying to correct bad historical claims about him, while definitely not being a fan! But even when we are more careful in how we discuss what Christians did, there’s all this defensiveness from both atheist/nonreligious scholars & some supposedly Pagan & polytheist or esoteric scholars. They have this whole tone like they really want to sit at the table with the grown-up religion scholars & look down their nose at the rest of us.

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    • Why i call them collaborators. They’re the type of people that in the face of direct attack and oppression would side with the enemy for a pat on the head.

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