Why Devotion? – A Reader Question

Yesterday, well after I’d closed my Wodinic Wednesday, I received via email a question from D. It’s a good question and I wanted to highlight it and my brief answer. 

D asked: 

“Hi Ms. Krasskova,
I’ve read your blog for a few months, read your book “He Is Frenzy,” and some of two others. 
My question for you, (if it isn’t too late) is: what does a being such as He get from having adherents or people that give offerings? I’ve read that Mímisbrunnr is the akashic records. If that is so, doesn’t he have access to everything that has occurred? What more could he gain? 
Thank you for your time and willingness to assist. “

This is a good question, which is why I chose to make it and my answer a separate post. So, here’s my response: 

“HI D., 

I hope your morning is going well. 

I think, in answer to your question that it is more a question of what WE gain from contact with the Gods. I don’t believe that the Gods *need* us in any significant way to prolong or ensure Their existence. That would, after all, make us more powerful than They and that is antithetical to the Divine order. So, if They don’t need us, why devotion, offerings, etc. I think it is that we gain something significant to the cultivation of our souls from such contact. 

I also think that there are cosmic rules that the gods Themselves put into place (we see this in the “Iliad” where Zeus is forced to allow His best beloved son Sarpedon die). They will stay Their hand lest the balance of creation be destroyed unless we open to Them, and allow Them to work through us. This in turn allows us participation in the ongoing reification of creation and the divine order thereof. We heal the world in whatever small way we can, by the devotional work that we do, and it is the most important work we will ever do. 

Now, were I a Victorine, I’d say that the Gods were so enormously full of love , that it was overflowing, and humanity was created because the gods needed someone, many someones with which to share that love. 

In the end, it may simply come down to a matter of the Gods having been our creators and what parent doesn’t love and wish contact with His or Her child? 

Regardless, I think it’s a mistake to think of the devotional relationships in terms of gain. It’s not mercantile. It’s relational. 

That’s my answer in brief. You may find me adding to it as the day progresses. I think all the things we’re asked to do in devotion make us bigger, stronger conduits of the Gods. Be well.

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About ganglerisgrove

Galina Krasskova has been a Heathen priest since 1995. She holds a Masters in Religious Studies (2009), a Masters in Medieval Studies (2019), has done extensive graduate work in Classics including teaching Latin, Roman History, and Greek and Roman Literature for the better part of a decade, and is currently pursuing a PhD in Theology. She is the managing editor of Walking the Worlds journal and has written over thirty books on Heathenry and Polytheism including "A Modern Guide to Heathenry" and "He is Frenzy: Collected Writings about Odin." In addition to her religious work, she is an accomplished artist who has shown all over the world and she currently runs a prayer card project available at wyrdcuriosities.etsy.com.

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  1. I often find questions like this fascinating. Now, before I say what I have to say, I don’t think it’s a bad question to ask. But I do think it’s interesting that it is asked so often. Why wouldn’t you want to worship the Gods? When I see the world around me and think about all of the great things I have been given just by existing I can’t help but feel gratitude towards the ones that provided these things. If our religion says that worship is how we reflect that gratitude then that’s the only thing that is the only reason I need. Plus, I just legitimately like the Gods. I think They’re really cool. I know that’s not the deepest reason to worship Them but I find that in mainstream religions like in Christianity it’s very rare that the person talking about their deity sounds like they even like their deity (I know that’s not true but in a lot of their rhetoric you couldn’t be faulted for coming to that conclusion). I like the fact that in our religion we actually like our Gods. We only ever talk about good things regarding Them. Anything “bad” about Them is pretty much only ever because we just don’t understand Them at the time. I think it says something to me personally that every time I learn more about our faith I love it even more. There hasn’t been a single thing I have learned that makes me think, “Well, gee, that really bothers me.” I can’t really say that about any other faith. Because of that, I gladly worship the Gods. What better response to the joy They bring?

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    • ganglerisgrove

      To ask is ok. We need to ask the questions that worry or plague us about the Gods. that’s how we learn. So I think asking — and D. was very, very polite– is perfectly ok.

      Part of the problem in Heathenry, is the Runatal has a line “tis better not to give than to give too much.” this is endlessly misinterpreted (including by those who I believe hate the Gods) to mean don’t do any devotion. This is incorrect. Contextually, that line refers specifically and I believe ONLY to negotiating with the runic spirits. They are not Gods, and are very mercenary. I would not apply that rubric to any other devotional situation. It specifically refers to the runes.

      someone new coming in though won’t know that, and way too many Heathens who haven’t done their spiritual work are all too willing to tell newbies that it refers to offerings to the Gods, as though we could EVER give too much. In doing so, newcomers are taught to truncate their spiritual growth in ways that are just very sad. so, I’m glad D. asked. 🙂 Many won’t.

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      • No, I’m glad he asked too. I guess it’s just something I personally never questioned because it’d be like asking why do soccer players kick the ball. If you don’t kick the ball then there is no game! It’d just be people standing around. I came to this religion *because* I wanted to worship the Gods.

        Reminds me of a time though I did ask a question like that. I was little and I asked my mom why we were going to church. It was my first question about religion and it was the only time my biological mother ever truly shared her faith with me directly. Her answer to me was, “So God can live in your heart.” Granted, at the time, I had no idea what this really meant. Why would God want to live in my heart? Isn’t there an awful lot of blood in there? Surely Heaven must be nicer? Of course, as an adult, I now understand she was speaking metaphorically and that she was right.

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  2. I kept shouting YESYESYES! whilst reading this post. Scared the cats. 🙂

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  3. Thank you for posting this! Earlier in the week I had an online exchange with someone who’d committed an act of sacrilege, but it was totally okay because she believes in a higher power and thinks God has a sense of humor <eyeroll>. Naturally I was taken to task by others on the mailing list, and the couple of Christians I know are there didn’t say a mumbling word in defense of their God <bigger eyeroll>. I read Gangleri’s Grove for new prayers and information on practice, but mainly because I desperately need the reminder that I’m not standing alone and other people exist who truly respect and love the Gods.

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    • There are way too many people in this world that treat God / the Gods as their imaginary friend/s that never disapprove of your actions and is always okay with people just doing whatever they want

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      • ganglerisgrove

        I’ve seen this in Heathenry. There are those who like the *idea* of the Gods but want nothing to do with the *reality* of Them, and all the ways They challenge and change us.

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      • ganglerisgrove

        Traditions aren’t about doing what you want. They’re about doing what the Gods have given us and what the tradition has determined correct and passed down through the generations and through their specialists. This is often an issue and why many ATR houses won’t take Pagans, btw.

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    • ganglerisgrove

      Sister Crow, what you experienced is a serious issue across religions. We’re seeing it everywhere. there are many, many people who love their Gods, who will stand up and object to blasphemy and sacrilege. You did the right thing. C.S. Lewis said the beginning of all virtue was moral courage. Without that, what do we have? nothing at all.

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  4. ganglerisgrove

    Guason, I think what your mom said about “So God can live in your heart” is beautiful and yes, spot on. Our practices ready our hearts and souls for contact, and ultimately as we move through our lives, theosis.

    Of course, all of this really highlights the dearth of good pastoral direction for converts, and really at all in our communities.

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